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saori
12-01-2005, 01:46 AM
I new in these parts so just wanted to ask how many big B7 fans there are around here. I love B5 but my sci fi love really began with B7.
Many other B7 fans here?

Oh, and I'm well familiar with the wobbly sets and the like. But you don't notice that when your 7 or 8, and by 30 they're just one more thing to enjoy, along with the scripted humour of course.

villarestall
12-01-2005, 12:04 PM
my lord!!! :eek: I thought I was the only one left!!! ;)

David Panzer
12-01-2005, 01:21 PM
I've not seen the series, yet. It might have been shown on PBS when I was younger, but when I was in single digits I never heard of the series.

Since I became a B5 fan I read all the archived posts, the Lurker's Guide, and Wikipedia's B5 page. It was after reading those I first heard of Blake's 7 and then read up about it, stopping short of the episode and/or season summaries.

I'm impatiently waiting for a R1 release of B7. I'm just about ready to buy a multisystem TV to go with my DVD player that I made region free. I came close to buying one so I could watch "The Italian Job" (the good one with Michael Caine), back when it wasn't available in the States.

I'm a B7 fan, despite having never seen 1 second of the series

saori
12-01-2005, 01:49 PM
B7 is good, but obviously the production techniques make it very dated with age. I read one comparison of Star Trek with B7 that said that Star Trek had special effects, whereas B7 had none. Strictly speaking this is not true, but I had to laugh when I read it. The special effects are definitely on the low budget end and can be a bit jarring on the eye first time around if your not willing to be sympathetic (perhaps even if you are).

I want to say that it is darker than other contemporary TV sci fi. By this I'm referring to the fundamentally dystopian state of the human govt. running galaxy (especially compared to something like Star Trek and even B5 really). The Federation is bad (through and through) and even most of the goodies in this series are bad (or at least morally ambiguous). But the main characters are fun, the head of the Federation becomes a wonderfully glamourous but ruthless woman and I think if you're willing to put up with the production faults (on scale with Dr Who of the time) you'll definitely have fun with it.

Hope you enjoy,

Sao.

saori
12-01-2005, 01:55 PM
my lord!!! :eek: I thought I was the only one left!!! ;)

No, villa there are still many of us around (JMS included).

Wasn't it great? I absolutely loved the show. Avon, Villa, Servalan. I modelled my life after Avon, in retrospect this was in fact a very bad decision, but it seemed so right at the time.

"I may be grade 4 ignorant, but I'm not stupid." - Vila

Ranger1
12-01-2005, 02:47 PM
saori please check your private message.

villarestall
12-01-2005, 04:11 PM
yep.... loved that show when i was but a wee bairn.... still do - theres something about seeing the Liberator, that graceful spaceship, being flown by a couple of spray painted table lamps, while the consoles just about fell apart every time someone pushed a button..... ;)

But - thats watching it with my more cynical mind these days - back then it was a must see every week on TV, along with Doctor Who - then POW! they "killed" them all off, and that was that!!

I too still hope for a DVD release over here in Canada - over the decade or so I've been here on the west coast, I have managed to track down 5 VHS tapes of the original 26 tape set in NTSC format ( I did have all the tapes in PAL when I was still in the UK, but I'm afraid they got left behind in the move after I got married.....)

I did find an interesting site while looking thru the blakes 7 web ring
( www.blakes7.org ) called the "Sequel Project" - with some very interesting stories to continue the series had it gone beyond the original 4 seasons.....

ttfn.....

villa

Dr Maturin
12-01-2005, 04:38 PM
What's funny is that "region-free" DVD players are really cheap and usually aren't labeled as such.

DGTWoodward
12-01-2005, 04:50 PM
Blake's 7 was a landmark show for the BBC. It parallels Babylon 5 in many ways too.

Just as JMS knew with B5, that the FX would not drive the show, so did Terry Nation, it would be driven by the characters and situations.

It had a definite begining and end.

All the important episodes were written by the creator, Terry Nation.

The characters were more real than stereo-type.

It was a show that I loved, even when Gareth Thomas (Blake himself) left the show at then of the second season. It had some truely superb designs, the LIBERATOR ship is a staggering piece of design - and influential..? Have you seen the Drazi SUNHAWKs? Also those fibre-optic guns always fascinated me. It all worked in a let's-make-do kind of way. The interactions between Blake and Avon, Blake and Jenna, Avon and Vila and Avon and Servalan were must see viewing. As I recall, at its peak it topped 14 million viewers an episode against a top rated soap. It really was a revolution for the BBC.

I still have my COMET MINIATURES model of the LIBERATOR in my attic, in its box. I've had it for years without assembly. I've always suffered a 50/50 split in desire over it because half of me wants to make, paint and display it...whilst the other half of me wants it to remain pristine in its box, an untouched memory of a show much loved. They turn up on eBay every so often so if I find one I'll make a few bids on it so that I can sneakily enjoy my cake AND eat it too :) :) :)

David Panzer
12-01-2005, 05:00 PM
My DVD player is a GE5803P. Bought it 3 years ago on Christmas Eve for 99 bucks. Shortly thereafter, I found this website (http://www.nerd-out.com/darrenk/). I followed the instructions for my player, and I am now the proud owner of a Region Free player. :D

Towelmaster
12-01-2005, 08:21 PM
Avon rulez big time! And my girlfriend made me say this...

Dr Maturin
12-01-2005, 08:50 PM
Here is my main DVD player that I bought for less than $100 two years ago:

http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/JVC_XV_N50BK/4505-6473_16-20846612.html?tag=pdtl-img

I knew the one that I bought for my office played all regions, so I ordered some PAL DVD's from Amazon.co.uk. One day without thinking I popped one into my main player and it played. About ten minutes into the program I realized that a PAL DVD was playing. I then checked the DVD/VCR player in the bedroom. It, too, plays PAL...without a "code."

villarestall
12-02-2005, 05:12 AM
I got "DVD region free" on my laptop, so I can watch anything - I know there are a couple of stores up here in Vancouver that sell multiregion DVD players and other equipment (they cater for the shipping industry, supplying gear for the crews on board...) so I'll be heading there sometime to get an idea of price....

ttfn.....

Joe Nazzaro
12-02-2005, 07:45 AM
Unfortunately, the B7 DVD story has been a bit of a debacle. Kevin Davies, who has done some great behind-the-scenes stuff in the past, had actually done a massive making-of documentary that would be spread out over the four seasons, but after all the legal wranglings and rights issues (with the party that reportedly held some of the rights for a B7 revival), the BBC wimped out and stripped most of that material out of the discs.

By the way, I've got an interview with the late Mary Ridge, who directed the final episode of B7 as well as several other episodes, coming up in Starlog sometime over the next few months. Mary was a dear friend and a lovely lady and I'm glad that we were able to share a few more stories in print.

And if anybody is still unaware of the B5/B7 connection, JMS has always gone on record as saying that Blake's 7 was a big influence on his series. One of my all-time great convention memories was at the SFX Awards in London some years ago, where the night's big award was presented to Joe on stage by none other than Gareth Thomas, in full Blake costume and makeup. If anybody has ever seen a video of that moment, it's one of the only times that I've seen JMS completely speechless.

DGTWoodward
12-02-2005, 10:47 AM
By the way, I've got an interview with the late Mary Ridge, who directed the final episode of B7

Wow, I never realised that Mary Ridge had died. I din't know her but she was a really talented lady.


And if anybody is still unaware of the B5/B7 connection, JMS has always gone on record as saying that Blake's 7 was a big influence on his series. One of my all-time great convention memories was at the SFX Awards in London some years ago, where the night's big award was presented to Joe on stage by none other than Gareth Thomas, in full Blake costume and makeup. If anybody has ever seen a video of that moment, it's one of the only times that I've seen JMS completely speechless.

Erm...wasn't this at Blackpool Joe? I think it was as I had a photo taken of myself with Gareth in costume after the presentation...

DGTWoodward
12-02-2005, 10:51 AM
Unfortunately, the B7 DVD story has been a bit of a debacle. Kevin Davies, who has done some great behind-the-scenes stuff in the past, had actually done a massive making-of documentary that would be spread out over the four seasons, but after all the legal wranglings and rights issues (with the party that reportedly held some of the rights for a B7 revival), the BBC wimped out and stripped most of that material out of the discs.

I know that you are far too diplomatic to name names Joe, but I have a feeling that I know to whom you are refering.

Joe Nazzaro
12-02-2005, 11:03 AM
Was it Blackpool? That period is a big muddle. I just remember the lengths we had to go through to smuggle Gareth into the hotel, and trying to keep his presence a secret so that news didn't spread too fast. And the fact that the guy in the costume place was a big B7 fan, who spent a phenomenal amount of time trying to track down the right tunic and was ultimately rewarded with an autographed photo of Jacqueline (Servalan) Pearce.

Shr'eshhhhhh
12-02-2005, 12:48 PM
I'm a big B7 fan. (I even penned with my better half a sequel)

I think it had more of an influence on Farscape (A bunch of criminals escaping a despotic regime, on a massive organic spaceship, chased by a cybernetically inhanced villain and a crop top seductive lady)

The Liberator when shot right looks good even by today's standards.

Vila, Avon and Orac were my favourate characters and they wrecked their main ship twice before Star Trek 'discovered' the notion. The crash of the Scorpio was rather simular to the same crash in Generations.

As well as inspiring the look of the Drazi ships the Liberator looks rather like the Excaliber.

My favourate bit of dialogue comes from Season 4's Sand between Tarrant and Servalan. Priceless stuff.

Joe Nazzaro
12-02-2005, 01:19 PM
The fact that the Drazi ships look like a souped up version of the Liberator is no coinicdence. That was a deliberate design created by Ron Thornton, who used to build models for the BBC before moving to the States including Blake's 7. I'm fairly sure he said as much in one of our early interviews.

I definitely agree about Farscape, but the show's creator Rockne O'Bannon insisted it was coincidental when I asked him about it, and we've known each other long enough that I have no reason to doubt him. I think David Kemper denied any knowledge as well, but there were some coincidences that struck pretty close to home in my opinion.

Night Marshal
12-02-2005, 04:20 PM
I seen this Thread and almost fell out of my chair. I have seen Blake 7 Granted I'm about 10 years or so. Anyways I really Liked Blake 7 and if you look at it the show has a lot of the same issues as B5. Low Budget, a less that considant cast. I think two of the original 7 make it to the end of the show. Single Creative force behind it. Good show I was surpised it hasn't released in Region 1 but I guess when your hey day was alsost 30 years ago that will happen.

I guess the thing that sticks in my mind the most is the final Epiode of the show and complely unsatisfying it was. I won't say want it was but it just was seemed out of the blue, but at least they end with Avon Smiling.

Other than the End great show look forward to seeing again when I get the chance.

therichieboy
12-05-2005, 07:14 AM
I think Blake's 7 could stand a remake. It wouldn't be half as good as the original if people were expecting it to be identical (minus the wobbly sets) but I think the overall theme and moodyness would please a modern audience (at least in Britain). It would need some first class actors in it to get anywhere near Gareth Thomas, Paul Darrow and Michael Keating- genious.

saori
12-05-2005, 03:28 PM
Avon rulez big time! And my girlfriend made me say this...

Towelmaster, I think I like your girlfriend. Not only does she have great taste in onscreen heroes, but she must be smart too - she gets you to do her bidding!


My favourate bit of dialogue comes from Season 4's Sand between Tarrant and Servalan. Priceless stuff.

Sand is one of my all-time favourite episodes. That and Rumours of Death.

Sand is cool. The violent, green sand provides a moody backdrop to the drama and action and is another fine display of Servalan at her best. Who else would wear heels and an evening dress to go trapsing through dangerous terrain on foreign planet? Or sleep with one of her arch enemies?

I like Rumours of Death because it delves back into Avon's past and shows him for what he is: ruthless, unforgiving... and ultimately human. I love Anna in the space sheets and the fact that he ends up killing her even though he loves her more than anyone else - and thought she was already dead!

Not many like them around...

Sao.

Shr'eshhhhhh
12-06-2005, 03:38 AM
Here is that dialogue from Season 4's Sand...

Tarrant: Being shut in here with you is rather like being locked in a cage with a panther: a black cat with large golden eyes and long silver talons.
Servalan (doe-eyed): Oh Tarrant, I'm just the girl next door.
Tarrant: If you were the girl next door, I'd move.
Servalan: Where would you move to, Tarrant?
Tarrant: Next door.

Though you have to see it to get the full impact.

saori
12-07-2005, 03:33 PM
Here is that dialogue from Season 4's Sand...

Tarrant: Being shut in here with you is rather like being locked in a cage with a panther: a black cat with large golden eyes and long silver talons.
Servalan (doe-eyed): Oh Tarrant, I'm just the girl next door.
Tarrant: If you were the girl next door, I'd move.
Servalan: Where would you move to, Tarrant?
Tarrant: Next door.

Though you have to see it to get the full impact.

It's brilliant, really brilliant. I wish they had done a remake but it would be hard to replace Paul Darrow, Jacqueline Pierce, etc. And whether the scripts would be up to the same standard... I wouldn't want them to sully such a great series.

By the way, what's your avatar from?

Sao.

Shr'eshhhhhh
12-08-2005, 07:46 AM
My avatar is part Kosh, Part Ulkesh, Part Gustav Klimpt and about 5 minutes on photoshop. (bit like it's owner)

saori
12-08-2005, 12:32 PM
Cute. Very cute. And Shr'eshhhhh? (- the sound Kosh made as you did this to him?)

Shr'eshhhhhh
12-08-2005, 12:50 PM
I was on a earlier B5 forum (around 1998), many of your Earth moons ago, and I wanted a Vorlonoid sounding name for myself. The forum folded but I happened across this here site and resumed the name. (I can't remember the forums name perhaps other members of this fine community can remember...? I seem to recall it had some chaps name ...Not JMS... ? I have a memory like one of those metal bowl things with holes for washing small objects in these days)

saori
12-08-2005, 01:21 PM
Sieve, yes. :)

Have you ever been to FrostJedi.com? It's for gamers but they have a lot of B5 information. I just found out that spoo is an animal. http://www.frostjedi.com/vex/html/spoo.html
For some reason I always took it to be a vegetable, kind of like a sea cucumber or something. But I guess the animal is not much different. Liked the bit about sighing all the time.

There is apparently also an order dedicated to the wisdom of spoo:

Spoomun Complat

http://www.frostjedi.com/vex/html/spoomun_complat.htm

Spoomun Complat is an ancient alien sect that worships spoo as a superior lifeform. Spoomun members believe that spoo have a deep understanding of the Universe. Their lack of motion is proof that they are philosophers of the highest order. They believe that meditating within a spoo herd will allow one to ascend to a higher spiritual plane. Of course, this is generally accomplished by most members through suicide. Although member attrition is high, there are many new applicants. The accepted leader, the Spoomuni Fedil, resides on a large ranch on Ganis IV dedicated to preserving spoo and the contemplation of their mysteries.

Shr'eshhhhhh
12-08-2005, 02:08 PM
I think there is enough sectarianism in the world without starting a Spoo vs Flarn jihad.

Oh no, and what if the blue milk of Star Wars (and B7)lot got in there and started roughing up the Romulan real ale brigade.

The pain, the pain.

I'll just sit here with my Soylent Green (R) Doublemeat Happy Meal (TM) thankyou very much. (I wonder what's in it? I hope it fits into my vegetarian life style.)

saori
12-08-2005, 02:45 PM
Somehow I think spoo would rate higher than flarn for me, although that's not taking the ethical dimension into account.

I guess Minbari would probably be strict vegetarians, would they not? What about Vulcans? Maybe them too.

As a drink, I'm with Vila. It's soma (green) for me. Now "Solent Green" I'm not familiar with.... Can you get that Vir's favourite restaurant - what was it -McBarries?

villarestall
03-13-2006, 11:26 AM
By the way, I've got an interview with the late Mary Ridge, who directed the final episode of B7 as well as several other episodes, coming up in Starlog sometime over the next few months. Mary was a dear friend and a lovely lady and I'm glad that we were able to share a few more stories in print.

I just caught the interview in the current issue of Starlog, makes for an interesting insight on her experiences with the show... :)

Dr Maturin
07-23-2006, 01:38 PM
And the price of the DVDs have skyrocketed due to price gougers overestimating supply vs. demand:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001Y9Z9M/qid=1153686804/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-2064662-5875106?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=130

It's a shame, because I'd really like to have it.

Toolpusher
07-25-2006, 05:10 PM
The price in the UK varies from £39.99 to £49.99, depending on which set you're after, £49.99 being roughly $92US, pretty average for a box set.

Joe Nazzaro
07-25-2006, 07:00 PM
By the way, for those who haven't heard, Blake's 7 producer David Maloney, who also directed some of the very best episodes of Doctor Who as well, just died last week. He was a true gentleman and will be greatly missed. I still have the tiny Corgi Liberator model he gave me when I interviewed him for the first time in the late eighties, now one of my all-time favorite B7 keepsakes.

Toolpusher
07-25-2006, 10:27 PM
Well if that was reported over I here I must have missed it, although I'm betting the BBC just couldn't be bothered.

RIP.

Garibaldi's Hair
07-26-2006, 02:45 AM
Well if that was reported over I here I must have missed it, although I'm betting the BBC just couldn't be bothered.

RIP.

You could at least do the BBC the courtesy of checking before you slag them off.

David Maloney Dies (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/news/cult/news/drwho/2006/07/21/34074.shtml)

Dr Maturin
07-26-2006, 09:56 AM
The price in the UK varies from £39.99 to £49.99, depending on which set you're after, £49.99 being roughly $92US, pretty average for a box set.

Too much. I will wait for an American release or for the PAL version to be resupplied. Either way, I'll probably be waiting for a long time.

Toolpusher
07-28-2006, 01:40 AM
You could at least do the BBC the courtesy of checking before you slag them off.

David Maloney Dies (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/news/cult/news/drwho/2006/07/21/34074.shtml)


Right.

I'm going to keep checking the official Dr. Who site for death notices?

Behave. The man deserved at least a mention on the evening bulletins and that he did not get.

Joe Nazzaro
07-28-2006, 06:21 AM
Frankly, I'm a bit surprised that David's death hasn't had more attention. His Doctor Who story 'The Deadly Assassin' caused all sorts of controversy at the time because it was singled out by then-TV watchdog Mary Whitehouse for incidents of violence that were supposedly too much for the delicate sesibilities of young viewers. And as producer of Blake's 7, his series was probably just as successful as the current incarnation of Doctor Who. I guess people's memories only go back a couple of years, not a couple of decades.

Bonehead
07-29-2006, 02:35 AM
The price in the UK varies from £39.99 to £49.99, depending on which set you're after, £49.99 being roughly $92US, pretty average for a box set.

I suggest people try good old Amazon.co.uk. That's where I bought mine. They start at Season one for only £21.97, up to season 4 for £32.99.

Heck they've even got the limited edition Season 3 with the die-cast Liberator for only £36.99.

Shr'eshhhhhh
07-29-2006, 09:42 AM
In any other country Jacqueline Pierce and Paul Darrow would have been huge movie stars.

If any show needed a CGI tarting up it has to be B7. The acting is already great.

If Lucas can stick his cardboard characters into realistic looking altered enviroments it would be a delight to see the masterpiece performances of the B7 cast framed in virtual sets that didn't look like Amberbly Chalk pits or the powerstation of the week. It would also be nice to see epic space battles that didn't look like a firework party between a Fairy Liquid bottle vs two hair dryers stuck together.

Dr Maturin
07-29-2006, 02:46 PM
I suggest people try good old Amazon.co.uk. That's where I bought mine. They start at Season one for only £21.97, up to season 4 for £32.99.

Heck they've even got the limited edition Season 3 with the die-cast Liberator for only £36.99.

I had assumed that the prices would be the same.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000085RK5/026-1224864-1121262?v=glance&n=283926&s=gateway&v=glance

Excellent. Thanks, you Bonehead. I mean...just Bonehead.

Bonehead
07-30-2006, 03:22 AM
Excellent. Thanks, you Bonehead. I mean...just Bonehead.

No problem ZD. I mean.....LIM. :p

Actually I find the Uk Amazon the best around for price these days. Strange, because it used to be one of the dearest. And I would have to say that their sevice is second to none. I remember when I first bought Blake's 7 season 1. I had paid for it, it had arrived and I was happy. A couple of weeks later I received an e-mail from Amazon saying they had decided to lower the price of the set by £3 and they were giving me a refund to that amount. I know of no other shop or website that would do that. Also I've noticed in recent purchases their packaging for boxsets is much improved. No more squashed corners :)

Joe Nazzaro
07-30-2006, 07:20 AM
A friend of mine here in New Jersey, who's a huge Anglo-phile swears by Amazon UK. Apparently if you're ordering from America, they drop the VAT, which helps compensate for the shipping costs. Bear in mind though, that the dollar is currently very low against the pound, but when the exchange rate shifts the other way (when we have a new president perhaps?) it will be a better deal for UK products.

Dr Maturin
07-30-2006, 10:48 AM
No problem ZD. I mean.....LIM. :p

Actually I find the Uk Amazon the best around for price these days. Strange, because it used to be one of the dearest. And I would have to say that their sevice is second to none. I remember when I first bought Blake's 7 season 1. I had paid for it, it had arrived and I was happy. A couple of weeks later I received an e-mail from Amazon saying they had decided to lower the price of the set by £3 and they were giving me a refund to that amount. I know of no other shop or website that would do that. Also I've noticed in recent purchases their packaging for boxsets is much improved. No more squashed corners :)

Yeah, I've ordered some old school WWE PPVs on DVD that aren't available in NTSC format from Amazon UK. Fast delivery.

Bonehead
07-31-2006, 12:12 AM
I have a request for Joe Nazzaro.

I remember following the attempted B7 revival 'Rebellion Reborn' a few years ago from their official webpage. I was involved on the forums there as one of the many angry fans that disliked the way the mini-series was being attempted. (Possibly re-casting Paul Darrow being the main problem)

Anyway, I kind of lost touch with it all after the forum was closed. Now, going back I find the website has gone as well. The only thing left being a small advert for it. I believe the delays and slow release of the DVD's was down to B7e productions owning the rites still, which seems to be confirmed by their logo on the back of my DVD sets.

Anyway, as someone in authority in the genre I was hoping Mr Nazzaro could give us an insite into what went on, why Darrow pulled out, and why the project ultimately died. Also what happened to the proposed animated series. And do you know anything about the rumours that the BBC might be interested in buying it back again after Dr Who's recent success?

frulad
07-31-2006, 07:31 AM
A friend of mine here in New Jersey, who's a huge Anglo-phile swears by Amazon UK. Apparently if you're ordering from America, they drop the VAT, which helps compensate for the shipping costs. Bear in mind though, that the dollar is currently very low against the pound, but when the exchange rate shifts the other way (when we have a new president perhaps?) it will be a better deal for UK products.

I'll second that recommendation for Amazon.uk's great service. I can order something and have it shipped to my place in Pennsylvania and in my grubby little mitts within seven to ten days at most. And yeah, the exchange rate sucks right now... :mad:

Dr Maturin
07-31-2006, 08:34 AM
I'll second that recommendation for Amazon.uk's great service. I can order something and have it shipped to my place in Pennsylvania and in my grubby little mitts within seven to ten days at most. And yeah, the exchange rate sucks right now... :mad:

Still, my buying that set from there will save me over $50.

Joe Nazzaro
07-31-2006, 07:39 PM
Regarding the B7 revival, I can tell you what I know, but I think there are a few holes in the chronology that I’m not 100% sure about. I know that the producer originally approached Paul Darrow, who agreed to get in touch with Terry Nation’s widow Kate and his agent to obtain Terry’s B7 rights. Bear in mind that the rights to B7 are divided between the Nation estate and the BBC, but I don’t know who owns what; in fact, I don’t think anybody is entirely sure, which has probably caused a lot of the legal problems these past couple of years. Anyway, in return for obtaining the rights, Darrow was also going to appear in the initial part of the project, which would be based on Nation’s ideas (Avon as a Napoleon-like exile), but I don’t know if he would be killed off, written out or appear sporadically in the subsequent series revival. Darrow was also going to be made a producer on the project, which would give him a vested interest in the project.

Here’s where things get really sticky. As far as both parties were concerned, I believe they each felt they owned the DVD rights. The BBC went ahead and hired Kevin Davies to dig up archive material for the DVDs as well as create a huge four-part behind-the-scenes documentary that would run over all four DVD sets. I’ve seen some of the footage and it was immensely enjoyable, and I know Kevin did his best to contact every cast and crew member he could. I actually went to the recording studio with Sheelagh when she was being interviewed, which I believe was between Gareth Thomas and director Pennant Roberts, and I remember seeing Kevin’s interview schedule, which was pretty lengthy. The one notable exception was Paul Darrow, who declined to participate in the DVDs because he was involved with the other camp, who apparently also believed they owned some of the DVD rights and reportedly planned to issue their own release once the legal questions were ironed out.

Just before the first DVD set came out, the situation got worse. Apparently the other party believed he owned the interactive rights to B7, which would include the DVD rights, which generally featured interactive menus, special features, etc. I’m not sure this would have held up to a legal challenge, but the BBC ultimately decided to strip out most of the special features from their DVD releases, which is why the final releases were nowhere as comprehensive as what was originally promised. Most of Kevin’s material was thrown out, with a few bits re-edited and added back in; part of Sheelagh’s interview for example, appears on the season three set as a separate feature. I know Kevin was heartbroken, because he had spent a number of months busting his ass on the project, and most of it got thrown out.

As for the mini-series, I can’t say with any authority if anything actually happened. There may or may not have been one or more scripts done on spec or deferred payment, but I don’t know if anybody connected with the project ever made a dime. I seem to recall there being a question about whether or not the Nation estate ever got paid for the rights in the end, which would basically have invalidated all of the above plans, but I’d have to call Kate to find our for sure, and I suspect she probably wasn’t all that happy with what ultimately happened. Right now, I don’t know if the rights have reverted back to the Nation Estate, or if in fact they’d formally changed hands.

As for Darrow, I think he eventually realized that he had been badly used. Not only did anything seem to be happening, but by committing himself to the wrong side, he had basically cut himself off from some of the B7-related projects that were actually happening. At some point, he did get in touch with Kevin to talk about participating in the DVDs, but at that point, I think that ship had sailed. I know he regretted the chain of events and his involvement in them because of some comments that he subsequently made to my wife and I. He just made some bad choices, which is unfortunate for everyone, but I think he felt he was doing the right thing, which was to try and help get a B7 revival off the ground.

That’s about as much as I know. My gut reaction is that the B7 project is not only dead in the water, I’m not all that sure it was ever happening. And until the rights issue gets unsnarled once and for all, I doubt anything will happen. Opinions may differ. What do all of you think?

Bonehead
07-31-2006, 09:37 PM
Thanks Joe. It all kind of leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. :( It's crazy how complicated and uneccessary things become. I remember a couple of viewers polls held in tv guides in recent years, asking people which show they would most like to bring back here in the UK. Blake's 7 won hands down each time.