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Old 02-25-2018, 06:43 PM
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"It was an early Earth president, Abraham Lincoln, who best described our situation. 'The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise to the occasion. We cannot escape history. We will be remembered in spite of ourselves. The fiery trial though which we pass will light us down in honor or dishonor to the last generation. We shall nobly save or meanly lose our last, best hope of Earth.'"
I don't know. I guess since we cut off ties to Earth, I've been missing it a little. But this baby is a solid piece of my family's history.
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Old 02-27-2018, 11:19 AM
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I don't know. I guess since we cut off ties to Earth, I've been missing it a little. But this baby is a solid piece of my family's history.
"History is rarely cut and dry when it comes to religion. One man's lunatic is another's saint or holy martyr. In the words of T.S. Elliot, saint and martyr rule from the tomb."
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Old 02-27-2018, 04:59 PM
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"History is rarely cut and dry when it comes to religion. One man's lunatic is another's saint or holy martyr. In the words of T.S. Elliot, saint and martyr rule from the tomb."
"Must've been a real shock when you reached the safe haven and found out the scavenger fleet was captained by Drazi ... and Shokalla is the patron saint of pilots."
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Old 02-27-2018, 11:28 PM
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I suppose. - What? - Nothing. I have plenty of things to occupy myself here. I think I'll just walk to and fro for a while. Maybe to my console. After that, maybe I'll try pacing fro and to, just for the kick of it. There's the view. Granted it's not quite the same as if you were outside. For someone with over 100 hours of combat flying experience.
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:37 PM
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I suppose. - What? - Nothing. I have plenty of things to occupy myself here. I think I'll just walk to and fro for a while. Maybe to my console. After that, maybe I'll try pacing fro and to, just for the kick of it. There's the view. Granted it's not quite the same as if you were outside. For someone with over 100 hours of combat flying experience.
"After everything we've been through with your people, Sheridan was crazy to send our pilots out to fight for your ship. They didn't want to go, they didn't want to get blown out of the sky and leave B5 defenseless, and they sure as hell didn't want to die. But they did it because Sheridan told them to do it, and because it was right."
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Old 03-02-2018, 04:25 AM
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"After everything we've been through with your people, Sheridan was crazy to send our pilots out to fight for your ship. They didn't want to go, they didn't want to get blown out of the sky and leave B5 defenseless, and they sure as hell didn't want to die. But they did it because Sheridan told them to do it, and because it was right."
"We did what we did because it was right, not to be remembered. History will attend to itself. It always does."
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Old 03-02-2018, 03:56 PM
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I've been building this piece of history for the last five years scrounging parts wherever I could. If I could just figure out where they go. I won this manual in a blackjack game, but it's in Japanese.
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Old 03-04-2018, 07:17 AM
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I've been building this piece of history for the last five years scrounging parts wherever I could. If I could just figure out where they go. I won this manual in a blackjack game, but it's in Japanese.
"Maybe somebody should've labeled the future: some assembly required."
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"The job of Babylon 5 is not to enforce the peace. It's to create the peace. And this place was built on the assumption that we could work out our problems and build a better future, and that, to me, is the key issue. See, in the last few years .. we've stumbled. We stumbled at the death of the president, the war, and on and on. And when you stumble a lot, you .. you start looking at your feet. We have to make people .. lift their eyes back to the horizon and see the line of ancestors behind us saying, 'Make my life have meaning.' And to our inheritors before us saying, 'Create the world we will live in.' I mean, we're not just holding jobs and having dinner. We are in the process of building the future. That's what Babylon 5 is all about. Only by making people understand that can we hope to create a better world for ourselves and our posterity."
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Old 03-09-2018, 05:20 PM
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"The job of Babylon 5 is not to enforce the peace. It's to create the peace. And this place was built on the assumption that we could work out our problems and build a better future, and that, to me, is the key issue. See, in the last few years .. we've stumbled. We stumbled at the death of the president, the war, and on and on. And when you stumble a lot, you .. you start looking at your feet. We have to make people .. lift their eyes back to the horizon and see the line of ancestors behind us saying, 'Make my life have meaning.' And to our inheritors before us saying, 'Create the world we will live in.' I mean, we're not just holding jobs and having dinner. We are in the process of building the future. That's what Babylon 5 is all about. Only by making people understand that can we hope to create a better world for ourselves and our posterity."
"It is said that the future is always born in pain. The history of war is the history of pain. If we are wise, what is born of that pain matures into the promise of a better world, because we learn that we can no longer afford the mistakes of the past."
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"It is said that the future is always born in pain. The history of war is the history of pain. If we are wise, what is born of that pain matures into the promise of a better world, because we learn that we can no longer afford the mistakes of the past."
"Both sides risked much, and suffered greatly. Brave men and women on both sides lost their lives. But in the end, the battle they fought was the same: to preserve and protect an Earth they could proudly call home."
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"Both sides risked much, and suffered greatly. Brave men and women on both sides lost their lives. But in the end, the battle they fought was the same: to preserve and protect an Earth they could proudly call home."
"Don't give away the homeworld."
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"Don't give away the homeworld."
"Medlab's quiet these days. The League of non-aligned worlds has broken up and everyone's going back to their homeworlds to prepare for the next stage of war. We know the enemy is gonna strike back. Rumour has it that this time's gonna be the last time. This time they're gonna end it. All we can do now is wait for the other shoe to drop or try and find something useful to do before the end. Right now, short of hand holding, or sympathetic ear, I can't think of one damn thing."
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"Medlab's quiet these days. The League of non-aligned worlds has broken up and everyone's going back to their homeworlds to prepare for the next stage of war. We know the enemy is gonna strike back. Rumour has it that this time's gonna be the last time. This time they're gonna end it. All we can do now is wait for the other shoe to drop or try and find something useful to do before the end. Right now, short of hand holding, or sympathetic ear, I can't think of one damn thing."
Every day, here and at home, we are warned about the enemy. But who is the enemy? Is it the alien? Well, we are all alien to one another. Is it the one who believes differently than we do? No. Oh, no, my friends.
The enemy is fear.
The enemy is ignorance.
The enemy is the one who tells you that you must hate that which is different.
Because in the end, that hate will turn on you and that same hate will destroy you.
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Every day, here and at home, we are warned about the enemy. But who is the enemy? Is it the alien? Well, we are all alien to one another. Is it the one who believes differently than we do? No. Oh, no, my friends.
The enemy is fear.
The enemy is ignorance.
The enemy is the one who tells you that you must hate that which is different.
Because in the end, that hate will turn on you and that same hate will destroy you.
"...for G'Kar and his people; they will do all that they can to destroy us, until the universe itself decays and collapses. If the Narns all stood together in one place and hated, all at the same time, that hatred could fly across dozens of light-years and reduce Centauri Prime to a ball of ash. That's how much they hate us."
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