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Old 06-08-2018, 08:06 AM
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Interview with Hill: https://ew.com/tv/2018/06/08/sense8-...ll-postmortem/

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Is there at all any chance of pursuing more Sense8 down the line or bringing this cast together again?

No there hasn’t been.
And I think we all feel that it’s, you know it was, although it wasn’t unexpected it was, we were sad when it was closed down at the end of the second season. But the main thing that we’re left with was just this desire to really put an ending in there that actually kept the spirit of the series. And I think that this worked out so wonderfully well. I think this is it’s natural arc, you know?
There are more stufc mentioned about the logistics of filming it but I only skimmed through it because I haven't watched it yet.
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Interview with Bilello: https://www.vice.com/it/article/mbkp...aleria-bilello

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"When in May 2017 the second season came out for me it was a real debut, I was excited to participate in such an important and iconic project for the topics it deals with, but after a month I had to freeze that enthusiasm to understand what was happening, "Valeria explains to me. "But if initially it was a huge displeasure, immediately afterwards something happened: that is, to discover to what extent the Sense8 fans expected and wanted a final."

Valeria refers to the open petition on change.org by fans ( also motivated by some actors in the series ) that after a short time has reached more than 520 thousand supporters and brought, if not to obtain a third season, to a two-hour final and a half that I still can not see because I'm in the newsroom. "I remember that at the time I often spoke to Brian [Will Gorski] or Doona [Sun Bak] asking them if they knew anything more, then at the end Lana warned us of the good news just before the official announcement came out."
Nice to know she was accepted by the cast and had frequent communication!

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To better understand why one of the very first lines of his character-in response to the question "Italian?" - is "neapolitan", was advised to read the tetralogy of Elena Ferrante. "Lana was a fan of her, and she explained that my character was inspired by Lila, the protagonist of the genial friend 's tetralogy, I read them very quickly, also because they are a very pleasant reading. "For this reason, several scenes of the grand finale of Sense8 were filmed in autumn last in Naples.
Some short quotes by Smith: http://www.premiere.fr/Series/News-S...e-doeuvre-dart

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"The sex scenes in Sense8 are very beautiful, mixing people of different colors, different genres, different shapes" , analyzes for us the actor Brian J. Smith (Will Gorsky), that Premiere could meet on the set in Naples. "It does not bother me at all to shoot scenes like that, the way Lana Wachowski writes it is a kind of work of art, a sculpture, it's positive sex as she says. And I agree with that."

Smith even prefers to film these erotic moments, violent sequences: "I am much more uncomfortable to shoot brutal scenes, a gun in the hand ..."


Finally, the actor reveals that the great conclusion of Sense8 , which is released today on Netflix, has a hot sequence, " necessarily, otherwise it would not be Sense8 ! This final includes even the hottest scene of the entire series ..."
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Interview with those of the cast that went to Brazil: https://entretenimento.uol.com.br/no...e-da-serie.htm

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"I'm very sad that all travel will end. I do not know who will pay for my travels, "Tina joked. Indiana, she started her career in Bollywood and did not know that on the American market the series could be canceled before they finished their stories. "As a spectator, I'm just happy that the series is ending well, I'm just glad it's an end. I signed the contract for seven years, but it was four, which is good. And the series got a strong message, everyone connected. She did what she had to do. So at least the journey is complete. "

Brian praised Netflix's stance in allowing a final chapter to be made for the saga of the eight "sensations." "It's not every company that's willing to do that. Or even look like they made a mistake. It has to do with ego, to maintain its image and not to be wrong. I think Netflix is ​​a different kind of company and very sensitive, actually."
Interesting, if she didn't misspoke, and was speaking literally, because all previous references were about "5 to 6 years". As for the 4 years thing, they started filming in 2014, so I guess she is counting them like that.

edit We also have this new video released by Netflix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8IWdW4CLCg
https://www.facebook.com/Sense8TV/vi...3393317853623/
https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1005104213087547393

edit Very nice video by Netflix Brazil with the cast at Brazil and fans singing What's Up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNxlwvpW6Iw
https://www.facebook.com/netflixbras...83717215018396
https://twitter.com/NetflixBrasil/st...87699488239618

Hill on the decision to cancel it, Netflix calling them to offer a finale, and the difficulties to restart production: https://nypost.com/2018/06/08/why-sc...ling-it-quits/

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“It’s a very expensive show,” says Hill, 58. “So we understood Netflix’s decision and were fine with it, to the extent that you can be.”

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Hill says Netflix got in touch with the show’s creative team three or four weeks after the cancellation.

“We got a call saying, ‘Well, maybe it would be a good idea to do a finale piece.’ Because we all felt that ending it at the end of Season 2 was not really the way you’d want to … if you had known it wouldn’t come back.”


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But as amazing as it was to have such a reversal of fortune, it was hardly a smooth ride. After the cancellation, “we let everybody go off-contract … the cast, the crew, the locations.”

The producers had to then scramble to lock down the international cast again. “We had to go and find the cast [and the crew], who were all working in different places in different jobs,” Hill says. “There were [cast members] in plays in London, people working in South America, a couple in LA, Tina [Desai, who plays Kala] in India. So it really it was very hard.


“In a number of cases, we were bringing people in overnight from another European city,” he says. “They’d arrive in the morning, work for us, and at the end of the day go back and do their other job. It was a lot of sleepless nights and running around.”
Ibarra on how little of Silvestre and Herrera she saw, working mostly with stunt doubles, because the actors were unavailable: https://www.quien.com/espectaculos/2...inal-de-sense8

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In the serial, Lito, Daniela and Hernando - the characters of these performers - have a love triangle, so they supposed they would be together, at least in the shootings. But in this last episode (which premieres this Friday), they did not have - except a few times - the opportunity to share the set.

"Poncho was doing a series in Vancouver and was flying to Europe to shoot a scene and immediately return to Canada. He was living a very strange world of creating several characters at the same time, and Miguel Angel, for personal reasons, could not be on the set either," Ibarra said exclusively.


The interpreter of Daniela told that the production of the serial created by Lana and Lilly Wachowski came into conflict because of this way of filming.

"I had to work a long time with two doubles, which later made it difficult (to production) to build the chapter. You had to take care of all the details," the actress explained.
edit Clayton interview from the LA red carpet premiere: https://intomore.com/culture/jamie-c...ive-on-forever

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A lot of fans are sad about the show coming to an end. What would you say to fans who are LGBTQ or part of marginalized communities?

Well, the amazing thing about the show is it’s on Netflix so people can still tune into it, you know, years from now, if they wanna go back and have a feelgood moment and use it for inspiration, or if they meet someone new and want to turn them onto it, it’s going to be there. It’s not going to go away and it’s going to be a whole story now. This finale has an ending to it, and so it’s gonna be a story. I’m out there, I’m working, I’m auditioning for a lot of other things and there are amazing characters that are being written because I think people are finally realizing — the people at the top are finally realizing ‘OK, we need to open up the doors to the writers’ rooms. We need to hire queer producers, not just these token characters that are stereotypes and tropes of what it means to be trans, what it means to be gay. We see it a lot with Pose especially — what Ryan [Murphy]’s doing on that. Who knows if Sense 8 was an inspiration to him? I like to think that maybe it was.
Some interview with the the cast while on Brazil: https://revistaquem.globo.com/Capa/n...-diz-ator.html

Onwumere and Mann from the Naples set: http://www.premiere.fr/Series/News-S...Je-ne-sais-pas

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"Honestly, two hours is short to finish such a story, with all these characters, these eight heroes, their backstories ... it's really a lot," says actor Toby Onwumere (Capheus), whom we met on the set, in Naples. " We do not really get into the personal stories of the coup, and we did a final episode very focused on the action."

"Will there be a sequel one day I do not know , " says Terrence Mann (Whispers), amused. "Let Netflix hear you ... And why not a spin-off like X-Men on Logan, which would be called: Sense8: Whispers , and who would tell the story of Dr. Milton Brandt?" For now, it's not at all planned ...
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A small BTS from the Naples shoot: https://www.instagram.com/p/BjvH1ZHHUGB/

Some interview with Silvestre during his time in Brazil: https://oglobo.globo.com/cultura/rev...s-fas-22756611

Another interview: https://www.cosmopolitan.com/es/famo...re-entrevista/

Not much about Sense8.

Some comments Lana made in the Chicago screening:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Sense8/comm...jra/?context=0

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Lana said something to this scene. We are so accustomed to women giving into 3 some with between 2 women and a man. So instead the filmed it with the surprise. Rajan, Wolfgang and Kala. And Dani, lito and hernando.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Sense8/comm...ilers/e0f8e0g/

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Well said. A lot of the show is based on how Lana felt about things and some of the things she went through. The first dance of the wedding scene. It is Lana's and Karen's song. The show is more how their feelings and and stance on various political subjects
Interview with a gaffer who has worked on the show since season 1: https://www.litegear.com/sense8/

Technicolor about their work on the finale: https://www.technicolor.com/news/tec...-series-finale

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- Color finishing was performed under tight deadlines, while handling the complexity added by the use of six different types of cameras and more than a dozen filming locations.
- Technicolor Visual Effects completed 109 shots for the finale, including intense cosmetics work that leveraged the team’s familiarity with the characters.

- Marketing Services worked on a dozen spots, trailers, and featurettes.

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Reflecting on its global scale which carried through to the series finale, Dustin said: “The show was shot entirely on location, with production always on the go, spanning multiple cities and countries…shooting 20 hours straight in Seoul, for example, then getting on a plane to Berlin and shooting another 14 hours there, and so on. It was really great to experience that kind of challenge, getting all the various footage together and making it all fit together, while seamlessly transitioning back and forth between all those different locations.”

On the VFX side, Technicolor Visual Effects completed more than 100 shots for the finale. This included intense digital makeup work that required developing techniques to maintain high-levels of natural skin tone and texture – a precise and manual process to account for different skin types and color, changes in lighting, and other variables.

“One of the great benefits of working on the entire series was that we knew the characters so well,” said Senior VFX Artist Jason Wilson. “Most of us had certain characters we worked on – Kala and Capheus for me –and knew the specifics of their look that had to remain intact or the audience would be able to tell.”

A high point for Wilson came at the end of season one, when he had to create a huge expanse of dock and animated water for a shot with Kala – which also involved hand animating camera moves that matched the actual camera moves. “Once the Wachowskis noticed the quality and consistency of work that Technicolor was providing, we got very little in the way of revisions,” explained Wilson. “They weren’t worried because they knew it would get done right, even with the high volume of work and the need to make everything look consistently the same across a broad spectrum.”
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Hill with more production info: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...lained-1118748

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The second season launched May 5, 2017; the series was canceled on June 1 and Wachowski announced the revival on June 29. What happened from there, says Hill, was a "hectic" series of events: Wachowski began working on the script (she directed and co-wrote the episode, "Amor Vincit Omnia"), while the producers were simultaneously negotiating the budget with Netflix, a usual four-month process that was nailed down in weeks. The cast also needed to be locked back in for scheduling.
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The schedule involved only 27 days of shooting for a feature-length sized ending. "There was some talk about doing two episodes, and then we realized that it shouldn’t be episodic. It is a finale and it should be self-contained," says Hill, who hopes to reach a broader audience with the finale. "On the 27th day, we stopped and everybody cried and then had a very big, large and great party."

Sense8 shot in four cities: Berlin, Paris, Brussels and Naples, but its most impressive feat was filming the Nomi and Amanita wedding at the Eiffel Tower. The 20-minute, cast-wide ceremony and party was filmed in just an hour and a half.
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The nuptials and post-wedding orgy made up the final chapter of the episode — an extra 30 minutes Wachowski asked Netflix for so she could properly send off her sensates.
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"It had been in Lana’s mind for a long time and we all felt it was fitting," Hill says of the ending, which did involve some stunt doubles but was largely the main cast. "You want to in a sense be happy for what you’ve seen and round out that finish. We wanted to leave it on a joyous note. An important factor all the way has been to broaden the spectrum — not just to broaden peoples' minds, but to invite them into something that they may not have found without the show."

That sequence was also filmed quickly, in about 45 minutes. "There’s no amount of choreography that could deliver something like that based on rehearsal, it was a very in-the-moment thing and a very joyous moment. That was the idea of the ending: That you see the joy of the way they met, you see the reunion, you have that sequence that is hopefully joyful for people."
Future for Sense8?

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And though the definitively happy ending rules out the option for any sort of third revival, Hill says that was intentional.

"It’s tough coming back to doing a finale like this when you’ve been canceled and gone through all of that," he explains. "We understood and Netflix was very straight-forward and gracious about it, but it’s a hard thing to go through. It always takes a long time, particularly when fans are going crazy and everyone has a different view on whether it’s really gone, but then it got to the point that everyone acknowledged it was finished. So to come back was also hard, because you just finished trying to push it out of your mind."

He adds, "Netflix had understandably said from the outset that they wanted something that was a finale. We knew that; they asked us to do that, and so we did it with a good conscience. It was a rush to get it together and get it done, but I think we couldn’t have expected it to have turned out any better."
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After reading that last bit about the "Future for Sense8?" it made me think of one thing I would like to see happen; members of this cast showing up in future Wachowski and JMS productions. One thing I hate about the business side of the entertainment industry is how rarely that happens. You always get these statements about how the entire cast was a family and they were all the greatest of friends who got along so well and then none of them ever work together again. I know a lot of those sentiments are just for publicity, but I also know that it often comes down to money. If the money people see Sense8 as a failure then they won't want to cast Sense8 cast members in future JMS or Wachowski productions and that is ridiculous. These actors were great and I will be looking for more of their projects.
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Interview with Clayton about the wedding: http://www.indiewire.com/2018/06/sen...rs-1201973627/

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“I only spoke to Lana [Wachowski] one time between Season 2 and the time that the finale was announced,” Clayton told IndieWire in a recent interview. “They were trying to get everyone’s schedules coordinated, so she was reaching out to everybody. I said to her, ‘You know I really only want to do this if the wedding is going to happen.’ And she said, ‘Well that’s happening.’ And then I said, ‘Great, where do you want me?'”
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While nearly 15 minutes of the two-and-a-half hour finale are devoted to the wedding, Clayton said that the “Sense8” team managed to film it all in one long night shoot. “I think my call time was somewhere around…like four or five o’clock in the afternoon,” she said. “And then we shot until eight or nine o’clock in the morning.”

One quirk to the shooting schedule: Everything was shot in reverse.
So production began that evening with the dancing montages, and the actual wedding itself was the end of the day. “It was hilarious, working backwards, but at that point with this show that’s just what we do. Everything is backwards. It’s all crazy with ‘Sense8.'”
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When it came to the wedding dresses worn by Nomi and Amanita, Clayton gave full credit to costume designer Lindsay Pugh. “She told me about the dress and [it] to me didn’t really matter. Once I did the table read and I read those vows, I couldn’t stop crying at the table read. I just couldn’t wait to get there and walk down that aisle with Bug and say those lines to him about being my family. I couldn’t wait to say all those lines. I don’t know that I ever really thought about the dress. For me, it was just about the moment and those lines.”
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For Clayton, there was an element of sadness, “because I know how needed this kind of content is. As the only out queer person on the show, I carried a huge burden and it was exhausting. And I knew how needed this kind of representation was and I was really sad that it was going to be over.”
Uummmmmmm, does that mean there are other queer actors on it that they remain in the closet? (Well, one of them is widely rumored about, but it's their life, so I'm not going to get into this.)
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More Clayton: https://www.queerty.com/sense8-actre...roles-20180614

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Is there any chance that we’re going to get some more Sense8 in the future? I felt like the finale was pretty final, but there’s always a way…

Yeah, it’s over.


Darn.

Well, it’s funny, Brian [Brian J. Smith, who plays Will on the show] actually, we were all doing interviews in Brazil last week. We were all in San Paolo, and they had a big premiere there and the same question came up, and Brian just straight up said “No, it’s over.” So I’m just reiterating what he said, and he’s very close with Lana. So when he said it, I took it as gospel.

Well, hopefully, that means we’ll get great work from all of you in the future.

And it is disappointing, but the amazing thing about a platform like Netflix is that it’s online forever. It’s going to achieve cult status. I think this will live for forever, and I think people will keep rewatching it. I heard a statistic once that we were the most rewatched show in Netflix history. And I’m, again, I’m out and I did the show, and I’m out here on the streets. Out, queer, proud, showing the world that it’s ok, we all belong here.
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The finale is out (obviously) but since we didn't get many interviews this time I have posted the ones that I have found here (above). And here's what I have collected since my last post:

Interview with Andrews: https://www.assignmentx.com/2018/ins...ive-interview/

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AX: How did it work out scheduling your work on INSTINCT with your work on the SENSE8 finale?

ANDREWS: Well, [the INSTINCT producers and CBS] were very generous in allowing me to be able to fly to Berlin, or Napoli, or Paris, or wherever it was in the middle of this, and allow me to finish it. So I’m grateful.

AX: How different is the experience doing a network procedural like INSTINCT compared to doing SENSE8?

ANDREWS: Completely different. Obviously, that show is a Netflix show, and we did two seasons, where you’re literally moving the crew around five continents. Completely different to a procedural show, where I guess there’s a certain formula that you have to adhere to, whereas SENSE8, as you probably know, is just [anti-formulaic].

AX: In terms of your SENSE8 character Jonas Maliki, were you satisfied with how the series ended for him?

ANDREWS: Yes. Both me and Daryl [Hannah, who plays Jonas’s lover Angelica Turing], yeah. I think Daryl was very pleased with it, too.
Cast and Lana interviewed at the during the Vancouver Pride:
http://dailyhive.com/video/lana-wach...-series-finale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15fNTqn2XHk

Sommers: https://www.livesense8.com/ls8-21-sp...mnia-and-more/
and Kohli: https://www.livesense8.com/ls8-22-in...h-purab-kohli/

on the livesense8.com podcast talking about the finale.

Brief mention by WB Sound on their involvement in the finale: https://www.wbsound.com/dont-miss-th...iday-june-8th/

Brief acknowledgment by Abbaye de Villers for the appearance of the location in the finale (the Lacuna scene): https://www.facebook.com/abbayedevil...55257042972032

Pictures by Eiffel Tower's social media from the making of the finale:
https://twitter.com/latoureiffel/sta...98822211657731
https://www.facebook.com/TourEiffel/...33306180040009

LA red carpet interviews with cast: https://www.pride.com/sense8/2018/6/...acy-sex-scenes

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Brian J. Smith's favorite moment of the series:

"I don't know why this is, but one of my favorite moments in the series is the scene that happens on the Fourth of July in season one. I'm watching fireworks with my dad, and Nomi and Amanita are having sex in San Francisco and it just turns into this people enjoying fireworks, but then sexual fireworks as well. It's such a sweet moment and an erotic moment and I...There's something about it. And the song, "Keep It Close" by Seven Lions plays underneath it. That moment is always just going to completely blow me away."
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Jamie Clayton's favorite 'Sense8' moment:

"It's in the finale. You know which one it is."
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Jamie Clayton on why 'Sense8's' LGBT representation is so important:

It's interesting being on a show that's so diverse ethnically, but I'm the only out, queer member of the entire cast. What I hope when people watch it is they see the characters and maybe they see me off-screen and they go, 'Oh wow, she's really trans in real life too, maybe that's ok? She seems really cool.' I want people to tune in and watch it and not be so afraid when they step out, they get on a bus, they go to a movie theater and see people who might not sound like what they think they should sound like and they might not look like what they think they should look like and not be so scared because they're like, 'Oh, I think she might be like that girl on Sense8.' That's what I really hope."
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Tina Desai's favorite 'Sense8' moment:

"So many things. I think the best part is that you can sensate with all the other sensates, be a part of their lives, be a part of their story as if it's yours. To be able to understand someone's character as if it's your own, I think that whole concept is very interesting to me. There are no lies, there are no barriers, you experience everything as if it's your own story. Just to play with that idea was huge and fascinating."
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Toby Onwumere's favorite 'Sense8' moment:

"Season 2 during the birthday montage. It was during Lito's birthday and everybody's blowing out the candles. That was my very first scene. That's kind of been a microcosm of Sense8, just a whole birthday party. And right after that, there was a huge celebration and everyone spanked me and we went to go party. That's what Sense8 has been, it's been a complete celebration."
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Miguel Angel Silvestre's favorite 'Sense8' moment:

It was the dancing we did in the Torifel. It's in the last episode. We kind of knew the show was going to end there, so it was kind of a celebration in a way. Even though it was freezing, we had so much fun that night.
"Torifel". LOL.
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This one is an interview with Toll from December 2017 but I completely missed it at the time: https://ascmag.com/articles/john-tol...n-exacting-eye

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Lana also came to Camerimage for a panel discussion on our production approach on Sense8. Working on this show was a very unique experience for all of us. I shot two seasons and we had the same basic team on both. On the second season we shot in twenty cities in 14 different countries and did a huge amount of work in a limited amount of time. Out of necessity, we adopted a very improvisational and practical approach. Generally, it was “forget everything you’ve learned about “proper procedure” and the “rules” of filmmaking. We not only broke the rules, we didn't even think about the rules we were breaking. If we had been working at a major studio we definitely would have wound up in movie jail.
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Had the Wachowskis planned for additional seasons?

I’m not sure what the initial plan was, but apparently Netflix decided that the show wasn't getting the viewers that justified the expense and cancelled after two seasons. Season two ended as a cliffhanger and then Netflix cancelled it. The audience, who Netflix believed wasn't there, started protesting. There was a huge online outcry so we went back and shot a two-hour finale to the series.

It was all rather odd. When Sense8 was first released on Netflix, I didn’t watched the show for a few months because I had seen it so often in multiple color timing finishing sessions. When I did try to pull it up on Netflix I couldn't find it. It wasn’t promoted and you had to search for it. They had pages and pages of promotion for other programming but you had to search for Sense8. "Nobody's watching the show"? Duh!! It's more like they can't find it.
Yup, nice to hear this from someone involved with the production! I wouldn't say that with better visibility the show wouldn't be canceled (but who knows?), but it's just really weird they didn't have it more visible on their service. Come on Netflix, be proud about it, don't hide it! At least they got better with it for the finale.
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Hemon discusses what storylines they dropped / how they could continue in Season 3: https://entropymag.org/making-sense8...ksandar-hemon/

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Aleksandar: Some of the characters and their stories were limited by their shooting schedules, as a few actors were working on other projects at the same time. But I wish I could tell you the character trajectories Lana has outlined and we kept imagining—it would’ve been great. We had to opt out for the relative unity of time and space, and disregard, which was painful, story lines we had no time to pursue. So that Lito’s big break and Capheus’s political career had to be suspended. All of the narratives could have gone further: Lito’s career could’ve taken off; Capheus could’ve had to deal with the situation of being in power; Kala could’ve gone on waffling between the two men (as Rajan’s corruption affair would affect their relationship); Nomi and Amanita could’ve had to pay back The Guy for the favor; Riley and Will could’ve worked on connecting and uniting other clusters; Wolfgang could’ve been in the middle of the succession war unfolding in Berlin; Sun’s brother could’ve united with a politician who makes an appearance at the end of Season 2. But that’s all entirely speculative. Who knows what would’ve happened if the Pit spent 2 months outlining Season 3 and then wrote it? Writing is nothing but contingencies, really.
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Aleksandar: But we knew that Sense8 Finale was the end, and the reflective nostalgia is already inscribed in it, except it has the shape of exuberance—we knew that everyone, the fans, the people involved, including the Pit, would look back at it and we wanted everyone to remember the joy and pleasure of it, of the time we were all together, of Time holding together.
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This one is an interview with Toll from December 2017 but I completely missed it at the time: https://ascmag.com/articles/john-tol...n-exacting-eye

Yup, nice to hear this from someone involved with the production! I wouldn't say that with better visibility the show wouldn't be canceled (but who knows?), but it's just really weird they didn't have it more visible on their service. Come on Netflix, be proud about it, don't hide it! At least they got better with it for the finale.
I honestly think the comment is a little silly. Oh no, I had to search for a show on Netflix... dear me... life is so hard. There's only so much room on that front page of Netflix and it's going to go to new releases, and it'll also be based on your own viewing habits. I honestly think Netflix treated the show very well, and I don't think the viewing figures vs high production cost issue can be laid at their door. It was an exuberant show on all fronts and it was always going to be a bit of a niche show due to its approach.
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Note he says he went through pages upon pages and still couldn't find it - not that it wasn't on the very front.

But disregarding Toll's comment, we have many reports from fans about in particular when season 2 was released, that for several people the show was just nowhere to be found, unless one specifically searched for it.

Despite being a new release, despite the owners of the account having watching the previous season. Now, it's not like it didn't show up for anyone - it did show up for others - so it's unclear why the algorithm in many cases failed to bring it up, but it does seem it wasn't treated as a high profile release by Netflix that absolutely MUST show up.

Several of these fans were actually pleasantly surprised when they saw the Finale show up (suggesting Netflix either improved their algorithm or reconsidered the importance of the show) - just like they expected Season 2 to do, but never did for them.
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Note he says he went through pages upon pages and still couldn't find it - not that it wasn't on the very front.

But disregarding Toll's comment, we have many reports from fans about in particular when season 2 was released, that for several people the show was just nowhere to be found, unless one specifically searched for it.

Despite being a new release, despite the owners of the account having watching the previous season. Now, it's not like it didn't show up for anyone - it did show up for others - so it's unclear why the algorithm in many cases failed to bring it up, but it does seem it wasn't treated as a high profile release by Netflix that absolutely MUST show up.

Several of these fans were actually pleasantly surprised when they saw the Finale show up (suggesting Netflix either improved their algorithm or reconsidered the importance of the show) - just like they expected Season 2 to do, but never did for them.
I also think their promotion of the show was abysmal. The amount of people who used Netflix, were into genre shows, admired B5 and the Wachowskis, and still hadn't heard of Sense8, was completely ridiculous. Compared to the publicity some of their other shows get, it was shameful.

(Later they decided to use the "LGBT angle" to promote the show, which frankly was somewhat reductive, but probably more effective than just letting it vanish. Sigh.)
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