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Old 08-25-2017, 05:21 AM
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25 years. I remember Joe's post made some time ago during the run of the series saying he didn't think anyone would be talking about the show in 15 years time.

Glad he was wrong
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Old 08-25-2017, 08:18 PM
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25 years. I remember Joe's post made some time ago during the run of the series saying he didn't think anyone would be talking about the show in 15 years time.

Glad he was wrong
Yeah, in his comments on "Atonement" JMS wrote:

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...in 15 years, nobody's gonna be hauling these messages around.

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/guide/075.html#JS
And 25 years later, the Lurker's Guide is still up, and here I am posting this on the J. Michael Straczynski Message Archive.
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25 years. I remember Joe's post made some time ago during the run of the series saying he didn't think anyone would be talking about the show in 15 years time.

Glad he was wrong
Yes, it's really endured. I was just watching a few S4 episodes today for fun.

Moments of Transition and No Surrender, No Retreat.

Especially enjoyed No Surrender, No Retreat, some amazing scenes between Londo and G'Kar. I sometimes wonder if my love of B5 is based a lot in nostalgia and 'rose tinted specs', but it's peppered with so much strong stuff, that makes me remember why I loved it so much. I think Londo and G'Kar are central to that.

But yes, we're still here! Still discussing and still emjoying one of the best SF shows to ever grace television.
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But yes, we're still here! Still discussing and still emjoying one of the best SF shows to ever grace television.
Yeah!
And the JMS quote goes further: "But the show will still be on the air."
He's right!


There were other SF shows: not bad, quite good or really good.
But imho B5 was and is the very best SF show ever.

First:
JMS master plan for the 5y arc. The novellesque narration never seen before.
The so intelligent and often funny dialogues.
The inner logic of the whole story - standing till the end.

But that's not all.

Second:
The tremendous actors which almost all where cast to the point.
They almost all represented perfectly their roles.

Third:
The score sound - the music by Christopher Franke.
Is Babylon5 thinkable whithout his music?

Fourth:
The famous CGI - so good for the 90s.

Fifth:
the wardrobe and the makeup, the scenery, the vivid (except Lost Tales) B5 interiors and much more.

BABYLON5 is a comprehensive artwork.

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Yes, agree on all points!

Some of the cast (for me) are stronger than others, but that may just be the way they are written as opposed to the acting.

For instance, Claudia Christian has done better work elsewhere, but it's probably the 'schoolboy humour' stuff that never gelled for me with Ivanova, and it always comes off as a bit forced. But that's probably just me not enjoying JMS slightly 'silly' sense of humour. I've made the comparison before, but watch her in 'Freaks & Geeks' and it's night and day! Her acting there is very naturalistic and she pulls off comedy effortlessly. In B5 it never worked for me.

I did continue on to watch up to Intersections in real time (what an episode! Probably one of my favourites), so had a good time re-watching this run of very strong episodes.
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Yes, agree on all points!

Some of the cast (for me) are stronger than others, but that may just be the way they are written as opposed to the acting.

For instance, Claudia Christian has done better work elsewhere, but it's probably the 'schoolboy humour' stuff that never gelled for me with Ivanova, and it always comes off as a bit forced. But that's probably just me not enjoying JMS slightly 'silly' sense of humour. I've made the comparison before, but watch her in 'Freaks & Geeks' and it's night and day! Her acting there is very naturalistic and she pulls off comedy effortlessly. In B5 it never worked for me.
I know "Boom shaka laka." [Acts of Sacrifice]
But overall I disagree about the Ivanova performance.
Think of the Ivanova-Talia encounters and much more "severe" stuff, where she was really GOD.

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I did continue on to watch up to Intersections in real time (what an episode! Probably one of my favourites), so had a good time re-watching this run of very strong episodes.
My Warehouse 13 rerun is over and I promised myself to then launch the Babylon 5 rerun.
But sigh, there are yet unseen DVDs on the shelf. And because a B5 rerun is long-lasting, I decided to view first "North and South" which did lay a really veeeery long time on the shelf.
(And which I'm now viewing the very first time on DVD

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