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Changeling: Foucault's 'Discipline and Punish' redux
This is an interesting take on Changeling from Peter Dray an eduator from Lancaster, United Kingdom. He was unaware that JMS had written and produced Babylon 5, and did not know about the series.
Republished with permission. Friday, 19 December 2008 Changeling: Foucault's 'Discipline and Punish' redux Quote:
Changeling and transformational truth |
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Saw the movie today - to make a long story short I thought is was pretty good. Perhaps the ending was too much hollywood - this my boy was a hero... don't know if these had been the facts - if yes then everything is ok with it... otherwise it would have been a little bit too corny for my taste.
Ah - and I loved the way JMS used his Sheridan line "never start but always end a fight" in the move :-) Perhaps not THE best film ever but pretty good |
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Glad you liked it. Jan
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Finally saw it today. Excellent writing, clean and powerful filmmaking. A very good movie.
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Finally watched the DVD (didn't see it in the theaters as it just isn't my sort of film) and thought it was very good. I think the marketers really blew it by not stressing enough that this was a true story, not just another "based on" or "suggested by" Hollywood version of reality. With that knowledge, Changeling is easily a 4-star movie. For folks who saw it expecting a "thriller" I can see how it might not have rated nearly as high a mark.
After seeing it, I don't know whether to be more hopeful about how far we seem to have come in eighty years or more ashamed at how bad things were not so long ago . . . |
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"Changeling" JMSnews Reviews SPOILERS
Fair warning to those who rent it from Blockbuster:
Its edited. They cut out several scenes, for those who care, here are some I remember: Obvious Spoilers I know Sarah and her husband had several lines of dialogue at the beginning of the movie before the car accident. They cut out a random scene of some lady at the hospital chatting with Sarah. The shot of the woman shooting the cop is way more graphic and features a shot of the cop getting half of his face blown off. The ending is way more fucked up and features a shot of the woman cutting open Sarahs belly and her hand being inside her belly, pushing the baby out herself. Fuck Blockbuster, although the movie is still awesome, the ending really lacks the creepy factor it originally had. |
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^^ Whatever you're talking about, it's not J. Michael Straczynski's "Changeling".
Jan
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I finally got up the nerve to watch Changeling last night.
It's a case I already knew a lot about and I was rather apprehensive about watching a drama based on something so utterly hideous. It's a well made film which doesn't draw indecent sensation from the crimes (what is seen is horrific but only in a way necessary to the telling of a horrific story). Miss Jolie gives a good performance but I can't help but think she was miscast in this film. At no point do I believe that she is an ordinary working mother, she looks like a film star and this undermines the narrative. Despite reports about the historic accuracy of the script it does take huge liberties with what actually happened. Sometimes some deviation from the truth is necessary to deliver a film which fits into the alloted length and budget but the real story is so compelling on so many levels that some of the alterations undermine what could have been a much more interesting picture that could have still remained outside the realms of sensationalism. The removal of Sarah Louise Northcott is one example of an opportunity missed. In a film about a woman obsessed with finding and protecting her innocent son removing Northcott's possibly complicit, certainly protective mother made no sense at all. Changing the events surrounding Walter's disappearance also was unnecessary and made the story too simplistic. It removed some depth from the characters and made it a plain case of a wronged woman against and evil police force with no possibility of seeing the various points of view on both sides. Another example of the simplistic telling of the story being that Jones and Davies were both later reinstated and Mrs Collins never got a penny of the $10,800 the court decided Jones should pay to compensate for her mistreatment and yet the film gives the impression that their careers were finished by what happened. So on the whole a good enough film with some lovely period detail and plain no-nonsense direction from Mr Eastwood, not what I was hoping for but at least not what I was dreading either.
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EDIT: that was the spoiler free thread
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The LAPD was corrupt at the time, no doubt about it. But go ahead and show me how you think that a department that tried to convince a woman that a different child was hers had a side that could be considered as being equally altruistic; I'm interested. Last edited by JoeD80; 05-04-2010 at 02:27 PM. |
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I've whisked these latest posts to the 'JMSnews reviews' thread. Thanks for being careful, though, JoeD80.
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The onscreen items superimposed at the end of the film were considerably shorter than in the script. There, it was noted that Jones never paid the civil award, that Davis regained his office but was forced to resign a second time. Even if Jones & Davis had any legitimate point of view to be shown, nothing would mitigate what they caused to be done to Christine and other women (in addition to their better known corruptions). Plus, their point of view would probably not be overly evident from the source material JMS was using. Jan
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Changeling first appeared on the IMDb Top 250 on 3 February 2009. It has been on the list continuously since 10 February 2009. Its best ranking of 216 occured between 6-19 May 2009. On 9 September it was ranked 250. It finally fell out of the IMDb Top 250 on 10 September 2010, but returned on 11 September 2010 with a rank of 250.
Changeling's and other films IMDb Top 250 Rank over time Last edited by Dan Dassow; 09-11-2010 at 11:35 AM. |
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Thanks, Dan, that's cool. Is the 'Top' determined by votes, do you know?
Jan
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According to IMDb Top 250, "only votes from regular voters are considered." The staff of the IMDb has intentionally kept the definition of what they consider a regular contributor vague. This is done to reduce the effect of people stuffing the ballot and distorting the results. Based upon my observations, the IMDb staff excludes votes from unregistered and recently registered people, and people who have only voted for a few films, do not vote on a regular basis or have unusual voting patterns such as high percentage of 1s or 10s. This is the formula for calculating the Top Rated 250 Titles: weighted rating (WR) = (v ÷ (v+m)) × R + (m ÷ (v+m)) × C where: R = average for the movie (mean) = (Rating) v = number of votes for the movie = (votes) m = minimum votes required to be listed in the Top 250 (currently 3000) C = the mean vote across the whole report (currently 6.9) for the Top 250, only votes from regular voters are considered. Here is an example using the current ratings as of 11 September 2010 for Changeling. It is not entirely correct, since it includes all votes, not just the votes from regular users. PHP Code:
Last edited by Dan Dassow; 09-12-2010 at 12:06 PM. |
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FYI Changeling is currently at #229 in terms of of the MovieMeter: http://www.imdb.com/help/show_leaf?prowhatisstarmeter
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