From: jmsatb5@aol.com (Jms at B5)
Subject: Re: The One-Armed Man
To: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Date: 6/27/1994 6:08:00 PM
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Okay, Robert Chelovich, I'm getting pretty damned tired of your
popping in here with your accusations against Katsulas. So you and your
girlfriend cooked up a complaint...that doesn't mean squat and you know
it. If you had a case, you'd make it; there are extradition law between
states.
You are engaging in the character assassination, in an obsessed
fashion, with a celebrity. You are using this forum to destroy his
career with false and misleading accusations. You were not being spoken
to in the thread, you simply jumped in.
You are, quite simply, full of shit. And you are engaging in typical
stalking behavior, which is visible to anyone seeing this. Obviously you
have no case, or it'd be made and there would be a trial. But you don't
have a case, so all you can do in your pitiable way is to come on here and
try to smear his reputation. You are a sad and pathetic creature who is
venally bent on destruction for whatever excuse your fevered brain has
cooked up. The problems between you and your girlfriend are your own.
A courtroom is where these discussions are held. That's where one
makes a case, if one has one. Do so, or shut up.
Because right now, all I see is an obsessed creature who springs onto
any discussion, leaves his little assassinations, and then blips off into
the shadows again, proclaiming "I will post no further on this thread,"
AFTER you have done your damage. Like all snipers, and cowards, you
strike from the shadows.
People comment that they find Katsulas appealing...and you jump in
and try to suppress them or frighten them away...you're right, there is
a problem, and it is yours.
You've got three choices: 1) Make a sufficiently convincing case and
go to trial (the fact that you haven't shows that there is nothing to your
case whatsoever), 2) Deal with whatever the hell it is that's turning you
into a net-stalker, maybe seek some therapy, or 3) simply shut up.
Otherwise how long do you intend to engage in this campaign of
harrassment, defamation and slander? Obviously you haven't got anything,
but you continue...what? One year? Two? Ten? Twenty?
You have been asked, repeatedly, to stop in these baseless
accusations. You have already come perilously close to crossing into the
area of stalking, malicious mischief, libel and several other areas by
your continued assaults. All such posts will continue to be not only
forwarded to Katsulas' legal counsel for retention pending legal action,
but to the LAPD's division that handles celebrity stalkers such as
yourself. The more you engage in this behavior, the more you build a
case against yourself.
Your postings are obsessive, verging on the irrational. Stop it.
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From: jmsatb5@aol.com (Jms at B5)
Subject: Re: The One-Armed Man
To: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Date: 6/29/1994 1:36:00 PM
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So let me get this straight...Diane speaks well of Andreas, and you
harrass her...you threaten to sue Andreas...you threaten to sue me for
defending Andreas and describing your abusive letters in terms that are
acceptable under the First Amendment. Boy, you sure are busy.
And woefully uninformed. Nothing -- *nothing* -- that I have said
in any of my postings are litigious. I've been riding the nets for a
long, long, very long time, and I've studied communications law, and you
got nothing. It's simply more baseless threats, which again proves my
point, that you're full of it.
Second, any case you might have cooked up in your head is now a dead
issue because of *your* actions. A complaint must be untainted by any
apparent motivation on the part of the plaintiff to "get" someone. But
your repeated actions here have shown that this is part of a vendetta on
your part against Andreas.
Anybody can file a complaint against anybody. It proves *nothing*.
Roseanne Barr filed one against her husband, then retracted it later
admitting that it was false. Happens all the time. A complaint is
simply that, unsupported by evidence. No charges have ever been filed
against Andreas.
As for your comment about the irrationality of discussing alien
planets and worlds...1) B5 is a *real* TV series, though perhaps in your
current agitated state of mind, you hadn't noticed that, 2) nothing in
discussing a fictional universe will hurt someone's career, as you are
trying to do with Andreas.
You have called Andreas' home. You have left repeated messages here.
You have taken other actions, all to one singular goal: to try and destroy
Andreas Katsulas' career. And you put my messages discussing your
slanders on the same scale, and say you'll sue?
Up yours.
You try to intimidate people here from talking about Andreas, you
try to intimidate Andreas, and you try to intimidate me...your obsession
is so profound that you're all over the map, in front of every person
here reading your screeds.
You have some real problems here. Deal with them.
But leave the rest of humanity out of it.
jms |
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From: jmsatb5@aol.com (Jms at B5)
Subject: Re: The One-Armed Man
To: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Date: 6/29/1994 4:53:00 PM
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Here's yet another example (one of many) in which you show you don't
have a clue, and are twisting facts.
You write, "...everything that Bob said was substantiated."
Incorrect. The only thing that Bob stated here was that a complaint
had been filed, by you.
The complaint has not been substantiated.
The incident has not been substantiated.
This is how the Judicial system works, since you claim to be about
to launch into it.
NOTHING -- I repeat, NOTHING -- that you have said has been legally
substantiated. And if it could be, would've been by now.
BTW, I spoke to Andreas today, who continues to be very upset by
this whole thing, and he indicated that he wishes you would stop calling
there to further harrass him.
jms |
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From: jmsatb5@aol.com (Jms at B5)
Subject: Re: The One-Armed Man
To: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Date: 6/29/1994 4:58:00 PM
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RE: mental powers...there's still investigation into this area
going on, and I don't think we've yet heard the final judgment...jump
gates are a fairly reasonable extrapolation on folded space, wormholes
and the like...and as for FTL travel, there isn't any, none of our ships
travel faster than light per se; hyperspace is one way of avoiding the
whole issue. In normal space, none of the ships in the B5 universe
travel faster than light.
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From: jmsatb5@aol.com (Jms at B5)
Subject: Re: The One-Armed Man
To: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Date: 6/29/1994 5:20:00 PM
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PS #1: as Brian O'Neill said, any lawyer in his right *mind* would
tell you that after filing a complaint, the #1 rule is, "SHUT UP!" Do
not go around making public statements about it. Doofus-activity #1 from
you.
PS #2: I have not said anything to you that anyone else here has
not said, in some cases in far harsher terms that I have said it. Since
you said that you now intend to sue *me*, you must now also sue *them*
as well. Otherwise your suit becomes selective, and thus provably a
vendetta. So now how many *more* are you going to sue? Or threaten? Or
harrass? (I notice you accused the Doge of forging your mail, so I
suppose we're now broadening our scope to include charges of forgery.)
You use threat of lawsuit to intimidate people, with *no* conception
of the law. Doofus-activity #2.
Would you now like to try for Doofus-activity #3, or go home now?
jms
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