Re: from jms: too damned much stuff

 Posted on 5/15/2005 by jmsatb5@aol.com to rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated

And by the way...while I'm at it....

For me, the very definition of hypocrisy comes into play when someone
demands of others a level of perfection they do not require of
themselves.

If you're going to twig me as noted below --


Paul Harper wrote:
> "You're not making sense. Even for a Brit" has bugger-all to do with
> any so-called class system and everything to do with prejudice.

-- then you have to be able to take the position that *you* don't do
this sort of thing, because if you do, then you do not have the moral
high ground or authority with which to complain.

Just a few minutes of googling turned up the very same kind of
prejudicial comments you've made about Americans...only far, far worse
than anything I said.

In addition to agreeing that Americans are "really stupid," and
offering that all Americans are "revisionist historians," you've said:

"ALL Americans worship flags of traitor ancestors - from a historical
English perspective."

Of the election, you said "How 100 million Americans can be so dumb as
to elect a twat like him in the first place, let alone twice in a row
is so far beyond my
understanding as to be in the next galaxy. Rampant self-interest. I
guess it's not too difficult to understand it really, huh?"

"Europeans have a much better and wider view of the world." Also a
very sweeping statement about an entire population.

And my favorite exchange from you:

">That makes americans 20% smarter than 1 billion fucking moron muslims
>around the fucking moron muslim world, fucking rag head cunts.

But apparently considerably less literate."

So you have dismissed and dissed Americans as dumb, self-interested,
illiterate, worshipping flags of traitor ancestors, agreed that we are
"really stupid"...and you have the *gall* to come here and give me a
hard time about saying Britain has a rampant class system?

The citations follow.

One hopes your apology would also follow.

jms


From: Paul Harper <p...@harper.net>
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Subject: Re: ~ MOST AMERICANS NOT TOO SWIFT ~
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On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 00:39:39 -0800, David Platt <p...@mail.com>
wrote:

>What percentage of muslims believe all the utter bullshit peddled
>in their fucking moron religion, 100 fucking percent.
>That makes americans 20% smarter than 1 billion fucking moron muslims
>around the fucking moron muslim world, fucking rag head cunts.

But apparently considerably less literate.

Paul.


From: Paul Harper <p...@harper.net>
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Subject: Re: ~ MOST AMERICANS NOT TOO SWIFT ~
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On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 16:57:06 -0800, David Platt <p...@mail.com>
wrote:

>No they are called "lift up flaps" and are attached to pop
>up picture bokos that you and your remedial class use.

I bow to your superior knowledge on the matter. (Though it can't be
*that* superior if you're living "over there" and not over here...)

Paul (laughing at the latter-day Founding Father who presumably
couldn't cope with the competition over here so went over there where
it's a lot easier...)


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Subject: Re: ~ What do Terry Schiavo & George Bush have in common? ~
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:11:10 +0100, "Anthony"
<anthonyni...@eircom.net> wrote:

>
>"Paul Harper" <p...@harper.net> wrote in message
>news:4bpb411gbcia4fe1uauu8m9icmq8mcsh09@4ax.com...
>> On 26 Mar 2005 12:24:19 -0800, "~ BUSH's ASS GERBIL STRIKES BACK !
~"
>> <bushs_ass_ger...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >40% of Americans want them to live.
>>
>> Well there's a significant difference here, for a start.
>>
>> Most Brits want Ms. Schiavo to be able to die in a dignified way,
free
>> from the stupidity of those nannying idiots who think they know best
>> (a position thankfully held up by the courts so far, even if the
>> politicos don't have the balls to carry it). This must rank as the
>> first sensible decision the Florida Court has made in many years...
>
>As Bush says, it's better to "err on the side of life." (Too bad he
didn't
>take the same view when he ordered the invasion of Iraq... but anyway)

No way of proving it, of course, but I'd bet that for most of the last
decade and a half, that poor woman has been wishing fervently to die.

It is cruelty in the extreme to keep her in her vegetative state with
no hope whatsoever (beyond bead-rattling mystics chanting
incantations, or whatever passes for religion over there in the US) of
recovery.

She, Nature and "God" have decided she's not to live. It's only the
arrogance of the politicos and, in the past, the medics and her
misguided family that decided otherwise. Arrogant pricks.

>> Equally, most Brits don't give a flying fuck whether Bush lives or
>> dies because he's cost us a fortune in cash and (more importantly)
our
>> fighting forces' lives. If someone shot Bush tomorrow, I doubt many
on
>> this side of the Atlantic would give much of a toss. (If they could
>> manage to take out Cheney as well, there'd be street parties all the
>> way through the Channel Tunnel).
>
>Yes, it's safe to say everyone would go out for a few celebratory
drinks if
>Bush kicked the bucket!
>But, we all know Bush isn't running the show. That privilege goes to
Cheney,
>Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.

And in such a simple way too:

"George, everything's running just fine, why don't you take a month or
two and have a nice holiday in Crawford".

(Packing suitcase) "You sure, guys? Gee, that's good of you"

How 100 million Americans can be so dumb as to elect a twat like him
in the first place, let alone twice in a row is so far beyond my
understanding as to be in the next galaxy.

Rampant self-interest.

I guess it's not too difficult to understand it really, huh?

Paul.


From: Paul Harper <p...@harper.net>
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On 10 Sep 2004 12:09:43 -0700, goyli...@hotmail.com (Goy Liath) wrote:

>Paul Harper <p...@harper.net> wrote in message
news:<c8u2k0tu54gd986557aom4kake4omul13d@4ax.com>...
>> On 10 Sep 2004 00:53:02 -0700, goyli...@hotmail.com (Goy Liath)
wrote:
>>
>> >we never seem to forget about the nazi genocide--holocaust--but
most
>> >americans know nothing of the horrors of communist
>> >classicide--bolshocaust.
>>
>> And choose to deliberately pretend that their own genocide of Native
>> Americans didn't happen.
>>
>> Revisionist historians - don't you love 'em?
>
>we deal with them. look at american AND european history books. the
>treatment of the indians is amply covered.
>yet, almost no one knows about the millions killed by lenin, stalin,
>mao, etc.

Maybe not in America. Europeans have a much better and wider view of
the world. I'd bet most Europeans are very aware of those as well.

I know I am.

Paul.


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On 10 Sep 2004 00:53:02 -0700, goyli...@hotmail.com (Goy Liath) wrote:

>we never seem to forget about the nazi genocide--holocaust--but most
>americans know nothing of the horrors of communist
>classicide--bolshocaust.

And choose to deliberately pretend that their own genocide of Native
Americans didn't happen.

Revisionist historians - don't you love 'em?

Paul.


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Subject: Re: Well , looks like we are all doomed then
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On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 07:25:49 -0000, "Dr Zoidberg"
<AlexNOOOOO!...@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote:

> Americans really are stupid [1]
>
>[1] With the obvious exceptions

Agreed. It was one depressing night's television watching, I must
admit. Not 100% over yet, but all indications... etc. :-((((((((

Paul.


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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 01:09:49 -0700, "Mr. N"
<seattledemocr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Scott Marquardt" <wasREMOVEk...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:do4ay4owzoyu$.dlg@marquardts.org...
>
>> What does that have to do with whether they had the right to secede?
Are
>> you saying that war against sovereign secessionists is justified to
>> liberate people held in tyranny? ;-)
>
>They had no right to secede, and were not held in tyranny. They
turned
>their backs on the United States Constitution and committed treason.

There is no "right" to secession. It always has to be fought for
either physically or politically.

>Many southerners still worship the flag of their traitor ancestors.

ALL Americans worship flags of traitor ancestors - from a historical
English perspective.

You need to take a wider view on things like this.

Paul.